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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.10.21 14:44:00 -
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I love it!!!!
Please have the Caldari one be Missiles. Please! |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.10.21 15:17:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:I added a tribute to the Tornado's original designer. Let's all give him a big toast tonight.
/Lone Person who and starts a stands Slow Clap
If movies are an indication others will join. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.10.21 15:33:00 -
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CCP Masterplan wrote:
Something vertical
It's new nickname is the Verticane.
Make it happen.
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.10.21 18:25:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:Sweet, can't wait for the new Drakes fitted with torps/cruise missiles.
Here that. Listen very carefully it is quite.
/whimper
That is the sound of the Raven realizing it will never be flown again.
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.10.21 18:34:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:
If these ships don't have any tank to speak of I don't think the Raven has much to worry about.
So it isn't a Drake with Large Missiles. Then the Drake has very little to worry about.
Long Live the Drake Blob and there 90k EHP. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.10.21 18:44:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:
It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to design high tier Tech 1 ships (or redesign existing lower tier Tech 1 ships) around weapons systems that normally fit on 1 ship class LOWER than themselves, with bonuses to make the weapons extremely effective vs. smaller targets.... but rather ineffective against their own class or higher.
With that last bit, I'm talking specialized bonus/abillities to maximize combat performance, not just slapping small guns on a cruiser or BC.
Hmmmm, this might warrant some serious thought...
Actually I am hoping the bump up the Tank on Destroyers and make them just that.
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.10.21 19:28:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:
Drake + shield extenders rigs/modules = just the right sig size to get smacked around by a Cruise Missile or Torpedo BC.
Double the DPS half the HP. Not gonna be that hot really. Unless it's got the Resist Bonus, then there is a new god. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:23:00 -
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Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:I love it!!!!
Please have the Caldari one be Missiles. Please! GOD NO! Fast Fleets need insta damage --- buy the time anything 'missile' related is shot the target will be popped. And I say this even with having deficient gunner skills :(
Yes because Drakes are not popular as Fleet Ships.
Cruise Missiles move at the exact same speed as Heavy Missiles.
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.10.23 16:19:00 -
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Rip Minner wrote:Ya this is just what we need lets make Battle Ships even more useless and unwanted out side of pve. 
These ships from the EVEkill Top 20 think you are talking crazy.
3 Abaddon 52906
4 Armageddon 25130
5 Maelstrom 24284
6 Tempest 22567
But hey I am sure the 175kEHP Abbadon is very scared of a Ship with 25% the Tank that it can hit.
Really if anyone should be scared of these things it should be.
1 Drake 141384
2 Hurricane 85968
These guys which can get hit by those weapons and can not out run the New Battlecruiser. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.10.24 06:11:00 -
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Rip Minner wrote:
This numbers realy show nothing.
1.) Did they get poped in the attempt to do PVE? i.e. In a wormhole/in a sactum/in a Incursion/when rating?
2.) Did they get poped in a pvp engagment before they fig out sniping BS's get scan locked and pind down before they can go to warp again?
so on and so on.
Sorry I figured any EVE Player who would have a comment on this would understand that the reason they are in the top six is because those 4 Battleships are the most well known Fleet Battlships in the game.
I should have been more clear. The Abbadon, Maelstrom, Armageddon and Tempest are the fleet standard for PvP and are used heavily in large scale Warfare. which incidently is where they get such a high kill record compared to well everything else in the game below them.
Rip Minner wrote:
Secondly I would realy like to know how you know the new BC's are only going to have 25% of the tank and cant out run a BS?
I do not for sure but your Avg Battlecruiser has 35-50k EHP. I do not see why these would be any different. I never said they could outrun a Battleship, sure I have no doubt they could run. If only running = winning. They have less tank and since most Battlecruisers currently have 6 Guns and smaller Drone bays it is a good bet that they will do less DPS if they can even fit the largest guns like those Battleships can.
I am willing to bet that the Abbadon, Maelstrom and Co are not going anywhere soon. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.10.25 05:35:00 -
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Rip Minner wrote:
Then I figured any EVE Player who would have a comment on this would understand that the reason they are in the top six is becouse those 4 Battleships fit 1400 Arty and Tach Beams but will probly end up costing twice as much as the new Tier 3 BC with 1400 Arty and Tach Beams there for replacing thoughs BS at there last good role in pvp.
Bolded is wrong, Mega Pulse and 1400mm majority for Abbadons. Fleets rarely use Tachs since Apocraphya.
Rip Minner wrote:
I should have been more clear. The Abbadon, Maelstrom, Armageddon and Tempest will be replaced as the fleet standard in PVP when you can field 2 times as many Teir 3 BC with the same amount of isk and when your geting Alphed by the other side too the size of your EHP being 25% less realy do's not matter becouse when your geting Alphed is insta pop time for any sub cap ship.
Bolded again, Drakes have 50% less then an Abbadon on a good day and I doubt they will have a Drake Tank. As for you can field, you very well can not field twice as many, you can field as many as can show up and Battleships are not that expensive.
You are under the mistaken impression of how easy it is to Alpha something with a ton of HP. A Hellcat Gang will chew through 3 Tornado's before there 1400mm Cycle is over and done with. That Tornado Gang would be gone in short order. That is if they can even fit Guns that big which remains to be seen.
Battleships are not Dying. Just like they were Dying because of HAC's, just like they were dying because of Bombs, just like they were dying because of Supercarriers and just like they were dying because of Drakes they are all still here. Turns out all those Deaths were "Forum Deaths". Once Tornado's lose enough Dmg for an Alpha, a feet that would take 30-50 Tornado's (Unless you go by EFT) with the same Dmg as a Maelstrom they will be slaughtered. Because say what you want 40 Mega Pulse Abbadons shooting at one Tornado with 30-50k HP with low EM Resists is going to die way before they can Alpha another Abbadon.
Battleships are only Dying on the forums. |
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